When God Says No
"There is no fix right or wrong... isn't it? Everything is based on your beliefs and principles."
--- From entry 'Nature's Call', 22 Nov.
Yes...? No...?
Bashir (the guy accused of masterminding the Bali bombing) will said he is not wrong. To him... he had a different mindset from 'normal' (or you want to call it majority?) people. He is right and the rest are wrong because of the way his thoughts and beliefs are set. So is he really a bad guy? (Above are based on assumptions that Bashir is guilty) What about Osama?
There are many people in the world... and everyone have different sets of thoughts. There are many issues in the world that leaves many people with their opinions divided. War on terrorism.... gay rights... abortions... just to name a few recent ones. Even the building of a casino in Singapore.. Mr Yong Teck Meng said:" My reasons for oppsing the casino stems from my values which are shaped by my Christians ethos and education." -- from the Straits Times, 22 Nov.
I am glad that religions 'help to maintain a certain stabality' in the world. It is a certain world order... and thank God most religion promotes peace (did I say.... most?). But it is also disturbing that some clever ass twist and turn a simple religion into a killing tool. But if a person had a thinking that is different from the religions... and said that he is correct. Will you believe?
As I said... each religion has it's own sets of 'rules and regulations'. Here is something to ponder... "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"
Jesus replied:"' Love the Lord with your God with all your heart and with all your soul and all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it:' Love your neighbour as yourself.'"--- Matthew 22:36-39.
I think about it carefully.... and feel that if everybody can think like that, then there won't be all the hurtful incidents around.
** I'm not trying to promote any religion over here.
--- From entry 'Nature's Call', 22 Nov.
Yes...? No...?
Bashir (the guy accused of masterminding the Bali bombing) will said he is not wrong. To him... he had a different mindset from 'normal' (or you want to call it majority?) people. He is right and the rest are wrong because of the way his thoughts and beliefs are set. So is he really a bad guy? (Above are based on assumptions that Bashir is guilty) What about Osama?
There are many people in the world... and everyone have different sets of thoughts. There are many issues in the world that leaves many people with their opinions divided. War on terrorism.... gay rights... abortions... just to name a few recent ones. Even the building of a casino in Singapore.. Mr Yong Teck Meng said:" My reasons for oppsing the casino stems from my values which are shaped by my Christians ethos and education." -- from the Straits Times, 22 Nov.
I am glad that religions 'help to maintain a certain stabality' in the world. It is a certain world order... and thank God most religion promotes peace (did I say.... most?). But it is also disturbing that some clever ass twist and turn a simple religion into a killing tool. But if a person had a thinking that is different from the religions... and said that he is correct. Will you believe?
As I said... each religion has it's own sets of 'rules and regulations'. Here is something to ponder... "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"
Jesus replied:"' Love the Lord with your God with all your heart and with all your soul and all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it:' Love your neighbour as yourself.'"--- Matthew 22:36-39.
I think about it carefully.... and feel that if everybody can think like that, then there won't be all the hurtful incidents around.
** I'm not trying to promote any religion over here.
posted by darren at
2:07 am
1 Comments:
Hi, I see you are just beginning to familiarise yourself with the concepts of fundamentalism and heresy. Nevertheless one of the more thoughtful posts here. Nice effort!
Anyway Christianity is not all it is cut out to be.
** I am not trying to discredit any religion here.
1. Christianity approves of slavery.
Ex.21:2 "If thou buy an Hebrew servant...."
Tit.2:9-10 "Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things."
2. Christianity tolerates incest.
Genesis 19:32-36 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
3. Chrtistianity might happily codnone stoning objective commentators like me to death
Lev.24:16 "He that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him."
4. Christianity forbids disabled and sick people from contacting with God.
Lev.21:17-23 "Whosoever ... hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. ... Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries."
5. Fire is a most convenient tool for troublesome people; it's use was pretty widespread in the Bible.
Lev.20:14 "If a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you."
Lev.21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire."
Num.11:1 "And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: and the LORD heard it and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the LORD burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp."
6. Christianity seems to encourage cannibalism of one's enemies and even kids.
Lev.26:14 "I also will do this unto you... You shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it."
Lev.26:29 "And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat."
Dt.28:53 "And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters."
Dt.28:57 "And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them."
7. Menstruation is EVIL.
Lev.15:19-30 "And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she shall be unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness."
God lays down the law on menstruating women. Such women are to God both filthy and sinful, and anyone who comes near them is contaminated by them. 15:19-30, 33
8. Polygamy is acceptable.
Gen.4:19 And Lamech took unto him two wives.
Gen.16:1-4 Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar. And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai. And Sarai ... gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived.
9. Is Christianity really tolerant?
Dt.13:6 "If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die."
2 Chr.15:13 "Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman."
10. And probably the best should be saved for last few- you CAN rape others even.
If you see a pretty woman among the captives and would like her for a wife, then just bring her home and "go in unto her." Later, if you decide you don't like her, you can "let her go." 21:11-14
If a man rapes an unbetrothed virgin, he must pay her father 50 shekels of silver and then marry her.
11. How to get rid of your wife if you don't like her suddenly.
If a man marries, then decides that he hates his wife, he can claim she wasn't a virgin when they were married. If her father can't produce the "tokens of her virginity" (bloody sheets), then the woman is to be stoned to death at her father's doorstep.
12. When you're a woman and you get raped remember to at least scream loudly.
If a betrothed virgin is raped in the city and doesn't cry out loud enough, then "the men of the city shall stone her to death." 22:23-24
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